Vogler response #5

In this section Vogler talks about two important elements to the Hero's journey, The refusal of the call to adventure and meeting with the mentor. The refusal to the call is the usually the first initial response, and they some how overcome it. Its the questioning of whether i really need to do this, and Vogler states that all heroes, classic and new will at one time or another refuse the call, i was even a little surprised at his Jesus reference. Vogler says the ways in overcoming this fear is the stakes have to anted up for who ever is in question, and only after that will there be some connection to help. Meeting with the mentor is another necessary stage in the process of the journey, serving as a source of wisdom. Vogler states at other times though the mentor can prevent problems for the hero, and that the mentor no longer fits the stereotype of an old wise man, but can appear in all types of shapes.
Vogler makes the point that refusing the call to adventure is usually viewed in a negative perspective, but there are times where there is a positive refusal, and i have some trouble grasping that idea. I liked the short passage about the secret door, because it is just a temptation that all the heroes experience, and they usually end up opening the door. Any time u see a button that says do not press or a door that says stay out, it is our intrinsic curiousity that prevails and forces us to turn that door handle, into an abyss we know not of. It was interesting to read about some of the different hero-mentor relationships, especially in the cases where the mentor turns out to be bad, and doublecrosses our hero.
With future writings, i would like to steer clear of the conventional stereotypes that usually accompany archetypes. If i could go back to writing piece, i would turn everything upside down on its head. Vogler makes a strong argument throughout these two short chapters, and he clearly illustrates why he thinks these are so important steps to the hero's journey. I had alittle trouble following the wizard of oz references just because i cant remember who professor marvel is for the life of me.

does the mentor being a villian appear more in movies or books?
is the hero still as much a hero if they refuse the call and are only motivted out of their own self-interests?
name one secret door from a current movie